Debates of the Senate  
2nd Session, 41st Parliament, Volume 149, Issue 44
  Wednesday, March 26, 2014
Question: The Estimates, 2013-14

 Hon. Lillian Eva Dyck: Would you answer a question?

Senator Day: I would be pleased to hear your question.

Senator Dyck: Thank you. I may have misunderstood. When you were talking about the budgetary allocations for Aboriginal Affairs and Northern Development Canada, you were talking about their moving money from one area to the other.

Senator Day: Yes.

Senator Dyck: That, I guess, is seen as standard practice, yet when an individual First Nation moves money from their budget from one area to another, that is seen as something really terrible and unconscionable. Doesn't it seem kind of like a double standard?

Senator Day: Thank you for the question. I would invite you to come when we have this particular department. It is quite incredible the number of entries that we see of funds being moved from various programs to other programs and from various departments to other departments, and to try and get our arms around all of the expenditures that relate to Indian Affairs and Northern Development, which is still the official name. Aboriginal Affairs is, I hope, the intended name, but we haven't gone to the expense of changing that, unlike Foreign Affairs, which was very quickly changed.

Our committee is very interested in knowing all of the expenditures in relation to Aboriginal Affairs and Northern Development not only this department but all of the other government departments. For example, Health Canada has huge expenditures. I mentioned as well safety and emergency and reacting to emergencies that have taken place. There is money in various places designated for Aboriginal Affairs, so not only does the department move funds from vote to vote, which we have to approve, but there are also many other areas that we don't know about, and we're going to try to draw all of that together.